I wanted to try the newer version of the DXFtoQET converter and I have downloaded this binary from here:
https://download.qelectrotech.org/qet/b … 016-03-26/

Then, I put the binary in /home/nuri/.qet and start QET.
I open the element editor and click on "Starting the DXf converter plugin" and... nothing happens nomicons/wassat

There was no problem with the older version (from 15.11.2015) available here:
https://download.qelectrotech.org/qet/b … 4_qt5.5.1/

Furthermore, the DXFtoQET 15.11.2015 is about 1MB big and those from 26.03.2016 is about 20MB big.
Why such a difference? nomicons/pouty

manutenzionepistoia wrote:

I have seen that opening a project created with the version 0.50, some lines and shapes, defined as "solid line" , are converted in dashed line.

This is a known issue when a project was created with QET 0.5 and then edited with QET 0.51.
All OS's are concerned, this is a QET issue, not an OS issue.

You have to edit by yourself all dashed lines to make them solid again.

scorpio810 wrote:

Windows XP is supported

still only by QElectroTech nomicons/grin

@ Unalcalde

I agree with Re-searcher, there are no text attached to the terminals in the element editor.
This is one of the biggest problem to generate automatic terminal strip diagrams with QET.
I think it is not possible at the moment to make something better as what your script does.

I mean these terminals:

For the present, I think the idea of Unalcalde is not a bad thing.
But for the future it would be much better if the "element properties" widget is especially dedicated for element of type "terminal". I mean without a workaround like: "use the field annotation to enter another type of data".
This way it would be easier for the user to know how to configure each terminal.

@ Unalcalde:
are you able to create a dedicated "terminal properties" widget in C++?

@ Galexis:
to differenciate the upper from the bottom screw, we could draw the symbol like this:
https://download.qelectrotech.org/qet/forum_img/nuri_terminal.png
where the the white arrow always show the "bottom screw", as convention.
Of course the element of type "terminal" must be extended with new functionalities so that QET knows what is the upper screw and what is the bottom screw.

[ENGLISH]

Hello QElectroTech users,

the developers team wants to renew and refresh the image gallery of the web site shown at this address:
Gallery

We need the most beautiful diagrams or other graphic stuffs you made with QET to show its capabilities.
The images should not only contain electric diagrams. They can also show pneumatic, hydraulic, process, PID or logic diagrams... or anything else!

Please send your images before 13.02.2017 to: nuri@qelectrotech.org

IMPORTANT:
do not take a screenshot! Use the export function (File --> Export) of QET to create the images.
Export them as .PNG and set the height at 1200 pixels.
If your images contain sensitive data you don't want to expose on the internet, please remove them by yourself. After receipt of your images, we won't changed them.

Thank you!


[FRANCAIS]

Utilisateurs de QElectroTech, bonjour !

l'équipe de développement souhaiterait renouveller et rafraîchir la gallerie d'images exposée à l'adresse :
Gallerie

Nous avons besoin des plus beaux schémas ou autres graphismes que vous ayez réalisés avec QET pour montrer ses capacités.
Les images ne doivent pas seulement contenir des schémas électriques. Elles peuvent également montrer des schémas pneumatiques, hydrauliques, de procédés, de logique... ou n'importe quoi d'autre !

Veuillez envoyer vos images avant le 13.02.2017 à : nuri@qelectrotech.org

IMPORTANT :
ne faites pas de capture d'écran ! Utilisez la fonction d'exportation (Fichier --> Exporter) de QET pour créer les images.
Exportez-les en tant que .PNG et fixer leur hauteur à 1200 pixels.
Si vos images contiennent des données sensibles que vous ne souhaitez pas exposer sur internet, veuillez les retirer par vous-même. Après réception de vos images, nous ne les modifierons pas.

Merci !

@ Morganol

it's not a big issue to disable the "automatic connector creation": you're only ONE CLICK away from it ;-)
Most of the users find the functionality very usefull. And it was implemented because of requests of many users (QET v0.4 does not have it).
I personaly only disable the functionality when I'm drawing some terminal strip diagrams or when I'm changing an already done circuitry to avoid that some automatic created conductors appear at the wrong place.

morganol wrote:

To that i would add: Move the title column leftmost, because that is the widest but most often we do not need to read the whole title so it can be visibly cut without usage problem

nomicons/smile nomicons/+1

@ Joshua

[mode mec pointilleux ON]

dans le nouveau widget pour établir les ref croisées maître/esclave, pourrais-tu masquer la colonne "N° de folio" quand la check box "utiiser les labels de folio à la place de leurs ID" est cochée dans la config de QET ?
Et inversement, quand la check box est inactive, masquer la colonne "Label de folio" ?

[mode mec pointilleux OFF]

@ Morganol

Lier l'élément = link element
Montrer l'élément = Show slave element
Montrer l'élément maître = Show master element

to your problem:

not all elements of the QET collection are up to date. Those you choose are very old I think.
Their definition are updated and need to be actualised. If you want to make it... feel free!

Captaindoc wrote:

le nom de ce folio ne peut pas être modifié manuellement, est ce un souhait ?

au départ, oui, c'est un souhait car la génération automatique du sommaire a été implémentée avant les "labels de folios", c'est-à-dire avant que l'utilisateur puisse attribuer manuellement les numéros de folios (la propriété "Folio").
Et donc, dans le système de numérotation continue des folios utilisée auparavant par QET, cela avait réellement un sens pratique : on générait le sommaire lorsque la documentation était terminée, et basta, tout marchait correctement en 2 clics de souris.
Aujourd'hui, avec la nouvelle variable %F (attribution manuelle des numéros) et les nouveaux désirs des utilisateurs (dont moi), la génération automatique du sommaire est perturbée.

Le problème provient du fait que les folios sommaire n'ont pas de réelle persistance de le fichier .qet.
Alors, à chaque réouverture du projet, les variables assignées manuellement dans les folios sommaire sont écrasées par QET. Tout simplement parce que ces données sont enregistrées nul part.

Pour résoudre ton problème, je pense qu'il y a un sacré boulot à réaliser au niveau du code, car cela remet en cause la facon dont le sommaire est généré, lu et affiché par QET.

Penser à corriger les fautes de grammaire :

La formule du nouveau potentiel contient des variables incompatibleS avec les reports de folio.

Les variables suivanteS sont incompatibleS :

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bien bien... ca monte, ca monte :-)

scorpio810 wrote:

Attention avec les renvois et les noms de conducteur basés sur les formules, surtout avec les %id !
On pense d'ailleurs supprimer cette variable dans les formules d'auto numérotation, car elles peuvent vous engendrer de gros soucis par la suite, et ne conserver que celle basée sur le label du cartouche (%F).

nomicons/+1
je plusse à fond !!!
Le fait d'avoir 2 variables pour numéroter les folios est quelque chose de très déroutant. Je parle pour les newbies.
D'un point de vue purement utilisateur, la seule chose qu'on veut pouvoir configurer c'est :
est-ce que je laisse QET numéroter automatiquement les folios (cas où QET utilise %id) ou est-ce que j'attribue manuellement les numéros moi-même (cas où QET utilise %F), auquel cas je suis le seul responsable de l'ORDRE des folios.
Je l'avais déjà dit, mais les appelations "label de cartouche" et "ID de folio" sont des termes qui ont un sens pour les développeurs du logiciel, car il y a une histoire derrière ces termes, mais pour les nouveaux arrivants, c'est incompréhensible intuitivement.
Mes petites expériences de formation en milieu professionnel m'ont montré où se situent les limites de "l'utilisation intuitive" de QElectroTech.

Thank you Scorpio for the commit!

About the save function: I totally agree with Morganol, it would be better to always enable the "save" button. I think it's also much easier for Joshua to do this way because he doesn't have to monitor any changes to know if the button has to be grayed or not.
And if the user saves one more time his project without changes, there is no problem too: the current project is overwritten with the same content. It means, from a user point of view, always enabling the save button does not create any problem.

But I not agree with the feature request of Morganol about the "save as" functionality: adding the project file name in the dialog would add more risk to overwrite an existing "good version" of a project. When I'm working with QET, I make 2 or 3 incremental backups of my project per day and these backups are always named differently (with date und time stamp).

nomicons/smiley-green nomicons/gne nomicons/smiley-green

I also miss a field where I can see what for project I'm currently editing.
I think the top window bar is a good place to show the edited file name. At the moment it's only showing "QElectroTech".
It would be nice if something like that could be implemented:
"QElectroTech - Project: myblablablaproject.qet"

Of course, the "myblablablaproject.qet" input should be updated when the user switch between several opened projects.

Hello patricknogara,

some actions on a project are not taken into account in the undo/redo stack and these issues are known by the developpers.
This is not a bug, only functionalities that are not completely achieved.
Sometimes I use the same workaround as you to save changes that were not seen as changes (order of folios, etc.).

hello Erga,

at the moment there is no convenient way to easier manage terminals. This will be surely made in a further version of QET (0.6 or 0.7...).

To your second question:
I have created some NO and NC contacts where the user can directly edit the terminal descriptions (13:14, 11:12...).
Look at the attached files.
You can not "transfer" the descriptions (13:14...) in the contact mirror (Kontaktspiegel) near the coil. Unfortunately, this is not possible at the moment.

Usually, in automation, the texts of PLC input or output signals are related to the PHYSICAL state of actuators (valve, motor, lamp, heating, magnet...) or sensors (contact switch, limit switch, proximity switch...) from a PROCESS point of view, not from an electrical point of view.

The reason is that the programmer of the machine/plant has to know what PHISYCALY happens when a digital output is set from low level (=0) to high level (=1). The electrical state of circuitries is not interesting for the programmer, except when he has to debug something.

For example:

You have to control an automatic door which is CLOSED in the passive state.
This door is opened by a pneumatic cylinder, which is controlled by a pneumatic valve, which is controlled by a 230VAC solenoid, which is controlled by a 24VDC relay, which is controlled by a PLC digital output.
To describe the name of the PLC output, it does not matter to know the state of all components between the PLC output and the door (relay, solenoid, pneumatic valve and cylinder).

It means that the PLC output that controls the opening of the door has to be named:
"open automatic door"
because this text describes the high level of the digital output.
--> this way, the programmer knows that when he sets the output to high level, the door opens.

But... don't forget that electrical diagrams are ALWAYS drawn in the PASSIVE state!

@ karlAttrezzi

at the moment, it's not possible to export a wiring list (with conductor numbers, section, length and color) directly from QET.

But... Obvisouly, someone has already managed to do something similar using XSLT filters:
https://qelectrotech.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=938
Sorry the topic is in french, use google translate.
Unfortunately, the user has not shared further information on how he achieved to do this.

a bash script nomicons/smiley-green

@ lmd59 :

il faut double-cliquer sur le conducteur pour pouvoir modifier ses propriétés (dont la couleur).
Comme tu donnes très peu d'informations, je peux aussi penser que tu utilises une version ancienne du logiciel.
Perso, je recommande la version 0.51 dev qui est parfaite pour "faire du coloriage" nomicons/wink

Pour win10, elle est disponible ici :
https://download.qelectrotech.org/qet/b … 6-11-17-1/

@ Galexis :

Bizarre... nomicons/wassat
Chez moi, tout marche correctement.
Essaies avec un nouveau projet complètement vierge pour voir si le problème persiste.
Peut-être qu'il y a quelque chose de vérolé dans ton projet existant.
Dernièrement, il y a eu quelques commit concernant les ref croisées et leur affichage.
Mais comme je disais, chez moi tout marche, donc j'ai pas l'impression que les derniers commits aient perturbé quoi que ce soit.