Thank you for your reaction.
After a reinstall, restart and even a machine reboot still the same.

scorpio810 wrote:

I don't know, but you could try this?
"Allow unzoom beyond the folio"

I guess I have a different kind of meaning about that function, but its not what I request.

About X:Y and the the Row and Function in the cursor position comment box, not sure if that is wanted because then we/I need to hoover over that object while I'am typing somewhere else in the app.


scorpio810 wrote:

I don't know, but you could try this?
"Allow unzoom beyond the folio"

BTW, have you tried lastest macOS  arm64 packages, I don't know if is work on your Ventura, or maybe your mini is a Intel chip?

So far as I can see beside the Formula used in the text fields, or I don't understand the working of it, I see no weird things or differences between the both CPU versions.
BTW, thank you for the effort to create both versions. I wish I have a better understanding of QT.

How does the formula in a text field work? If I use the sample volta - "1754" it doesn't work. I see at other place they use the {} and at other places they don't or it doesn't work with the {}. Is that a Mac thing?

Is there a way when zooming in that the Row and Column Headers are fixed visible? Is this possible to implement this in the application?

When I zoom in then often I want still to see the Row and Column name's like F12. This is specially wanted when I edit some connections and need their locations

Very much thank you for your reply; I will look into this later.

Again thank you for your help.

Thank you for your reply; but those links doesn't help me much.

The text field changes hte code; and doesn't respect my settings.
If I have some HTML like

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <head>
        <title>Page Title</title>
        <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />
        <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0" />
    </head>
    <body>
        <table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5">
<thead>
                <tr height="22">
                    <th style="min-width:50px; max-width:200px;">Omschrijving</th>
                    <th width="50">Lichtpunt</th>
                    <th width="50">WCD</th>
                    <th width="50">3F</th>
                    <th width="50">Verdeel doos</th>
                    <th width="100">VA</th>
                    
</tr>
            </thead>
            <tbody>
                <tr height="22">
                    <td style="min-width:50px; max-width:200px;">Keuken WCD </td>
                    <td width="50">2 </td>
                    <td width="50"></td>
                    <td width="50"></td>
                    <td width="50">1 </td>
                    <td width="100">3600 </td>
                    
</tr>
            </tbody>
        </table>
    </body>
</html>

It changes it to

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd">
<html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><title>Page Title</title><style type="text/css">
p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
</style></head><body style=" font-family:'Verdana'; font-size:11pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">
<table border="1" style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px;" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5"><thead>
<tr>
<td>
<p align="center" style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'.AppleSystemUIFont'; font-size:13pt; font-weight:600;">Omschrijving</span></p></td>
<td width="50">
<p align="center" style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'.AppleSystemUIFont'; font-size:13pt; font-weight:600;">Lichtpunt</span></p></td>
<td width="50">
<p align="center" style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'.AppleSystemUIFont'; font-size:13pt; font-weight:600;">WCD</span></p></td>
<td width="50">
<p align="center" style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'.AppleSystemUIFont'; font-size:13pt; font-weight:600;">3F</span></p></td>
<td width="50">
<p align="center" style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'.AppleSystemUIFont'; font-size:13pt; font-weight:600;">Verdeel doos</span></p></td>
<td width="100">
<p align="center" style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'.AppleSystemUIFont'; font-size:13pt; font-weight:600;">VA</span></p></td></tr></thead>
<tr>
<td>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'.AppleSystemUIFont'; font-size:13pt;">Keuken WCD </span></p></td>
<td>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'.AppleSystemUIFont'; font-size:13pt;">2 </span></p></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'.AppleSystemUIFont'; font-size:13pt;">1 </span></p></td>
<td>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;"><span style=" font-family:'.AppleSystemUIFont'; font-size:13pt;">3600 </span></p></td></tr></table></body></html>

It doesn't respect my row height and a min max column width. Also it uses a hardcoded font, that maybe isn't available on other system and create there a different view. If I hardcode my own font choice it changes that too. And the border is no way a one pixel border anymore.

My question again, how can I avoid the changing and how can I let the text field respect my code?

This feels like a feature by the developer but that is actually a bug.

hi, today, I did find some time, to play with HTML and the QET text fiel. I notice a very annoying issues; even when I add a very simple table inside the html source field, QET changes it to some thing that I didn't put there.

Is there a way that QET accept my input?
If I want f.e a one pixel thick border html code in the source how should I get the right result?

Sample

<table>
  <tbody>
    <tr>
      <td>col 1</td>
      <td>col 2</td>
      <td>col 3</td>
      <td>col 4</td>
      <td>col 5</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td>aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa</td>
      <td>bbbbb</td>
      <td>ccccccccc</td>
      <td>dd.dd</td>
      <td>eeee.e</td>
    </tr>
  </tbody>
</table>

I get a lot of garbage back with to much unnecessary style code.
If I create my own css then it get changed.

f.e

<table>
  <tbody>
    <tr>
      <td>Row 1, Cell 1</td>
      <td>Row 1, Cell 2</td>
      <td>Row 1, Cell 3</td>
      <td>Row 1, Cell 4</td>
      <td>Row 1, Cell 5</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td>Row 2, Cell 1</td>
      <td>Row 2, Cell 2</td>
      <td>Row 2, Cell 3</td>
      <td>Row 2, Cell 4</td>
      <td>Row 2, Cell 5</td>
    </tr>
    </tbody>
</table>

css
table {
  border-collapse: collapse;
}
td {
  border: 1px solid black;
  padding: 5px;
}

get changed to

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd">
<html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><style type="text/css">
p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
</style></head><body style=" font-family:'Verdana'; font-size:11pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">    </p>
<table border="0" style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; border-collapse:collapse;" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="0">
<tr>
<td style=" padding-left:5; padding-right:5; padding-top:5; padding-bottom:5; border-top:1px; border-right:1px; border-bottom:1px; border-left:1px; border-top-color:#000000; border-right-color:#000000; border-bottom-color:#000000; border-left-color:#000000; border-top-style:solid; border-right-style:solid; border-bottom-style:solid; border-left-style:solid;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">Row 1, Cell 1      </p></td>
<td style=" padding-left:5; padding-right:5; padding-top:5; padding-bottom:5; border-top:1px; border-right:1px; border-bottom:1px; border-left:1px; border-top-color:#000000; border-right-color:#000000; border-bottom-color:#000000; border-left-color:#000000; border-top-style:solid; border-right-style:solid; border-bottom-style:solid; border-left-style:solid;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">Row 1, Cell 2      </p></td>
<td style=" padding-left:5; padding-right:5; padding-top:5; padding-bottom:5; border-top:1px; border-right:1px; border-bottom:1px; border-left:1px; border-top-color:#000000; border-right-color:#000000; border-bottom-color:#000000; border-left-color:#000000; border-top-style:solid; border-right-style:solid; border-bottom-style:solid; border-left-style:solid;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">Row 1, Cell 3      </p></td>
<td style=" padding-left:5; padding-right:5; padding-top:5; padding-bottom:5; border-top:1px; border-right:1px; border-bottom:1px; border-left:1px; border-top-color:#000000; border-right-color:#000000; border-bottom-color:#000000; border-left-color:#000000; border-top-style:solid; border-right-style:solid; border-bottom-style:solid; border-left-style:solid;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">Row 1, Cell 4      </p></td>
<td style=" padding-left:5; padding-right:5; padding-top:5; padding-bottom:5; border-top:1px; border-right:1px; border-bottom:1px; border-left:1px; border-top-color:#000000; border-right-color:#000000; border-bottom-color:#000000; border-left-color:#000000; border-top-style:solid; border-right-style:solid; border-bottom-style:solid; border-left-style:solid;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">Row 1, Cell 5        </p></td></tr>
<tr>
<td style=" padding-left:5; padding-right:5; padding-top:5; padding-bottom:5; border-top:1px; border-right:1px; border-bottom:1px; border-left:1px; border-top-color:#000000; border-right-color:#000000; border-bottom-color:#000000; border-left-color:#000000; border-top-style:solid; border-right-style:solid; border-bottom-style:solid; border-left-style:solid;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">Row 2, Cell 1      </p></td>
<td style=" padding-left:5; padding-right:5; padding-top:5; padding-bottom:5; border-top:1px; border-right:1px; border-bottom:1px; border-left:1px; border-top-color:#000000; border-right-color:#000000; border-bottom-color:#000000; border-left-color:#000000; border-top-style:solid; border-right-style:solid; border-bottom-style:solid; border-left-style:solid;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">Row 2, Cell 2      </p></td>
<td style=" padding-left:5; padding-right:5; padding-top:5; padding-bottom:5; border-top:1px; border-right:1px; border-bottom:1px; border-left:1px; border-top-color:#000000; border-right-color:#000000; border-bottom-color:#000000; border-left-color:#000000; border-top-style:solid; border-right-style:solid; border-bottom-style:solid; border-left-style:solid;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">Row 2, Cell 3      </p></td>
<td style=" padding-left:5; padding-right:5; padding-top:5; padding-bottom:5; border-top:1px; border-right:1px; border-bottom:1px; border-left:1px; border-top-color:#000000; border-right-color:#000000; border-bottom-color:#000000; border-left-color:#000000; border-top-style:solid; border-right-style:solid; border-bottom-style:solid; border-left-style:solid;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">Row 2, Cell 4      </p></td>
<td style=" padding-left:5; padding-right:5; padding-top:5; padding-bottom:5; border-top:1px; border-right:1px; border-bottom:1px; border-left:1px; border-top-color:#000000; border-right-color:#000000; border-bottom-color:#000000; border-left-color:#000000; border-top-style:solid; border-right-style:solid; border-bottom-style:solid; border-left-style:solid;">
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px;">Row 2, Cell 5          </p></td></tr></table></body></html>

This is absolute not wanted. How can I get what I want?

I use data from an Excel sheet and create from within there some HTML with CSS and copy paste that in the QET text field.  If I use the html code from QET as base I got a piece of text that is way to big to copy past.

MAX, Your first three images are not visible.

HTH means Hope this helps nomicons/wink

Okay
Right Click on your element
Choose edit element
Choose Tab Text
Open the Disclosure's |>
Search for your text or formula; found it? Then check and change your offset settings.

You can also edit the original one from the default collections; first 'save as copy' then edit your Text Fields.

To save your own element; first right click on your Element - Own Colection and add a folder; Little bit puzzling because sometimes it accepts No Uppercase in the name.

BTW, My way - I do copy them, the element manually using the OS system ( search for the default elements path);
I created in lowercase in QET under User Collections all the folder names that I need
then I did copy, using the OS system, all the elements that I will need into those folders.
In QET do a reload 'Collections'
Edit ( right click ) the elements under 'my Collections' to my/your needs.

Don't forget the 3 menu items under the Edit Menu ( in the Element editor ); I do not remember right now how they are named, but if you look into the edit menu, you will know which one.
Naming e.c.t take time for this.
Its not very intuitive but you can figure it out.

Hope this Helps

RvA

jvrijn wrote:

The suggested solution is not helping.

The setting for "coil" and "Organ of protection" are the same. The only way I have been able to adjust the reference for an overload is to select "coil". So for some reason the location for de "Organ of protection" (protection unit) reference is wrong defined in the software, because I have not been able to find where I am able to change this.

Kind regards Johan

Not sure if the following will or can help you. Or maybe I understand you wrongly.

You can adjust the setting in the selection inspector under the text tab; there you see text offsets and you can adjust those.

I did copy an element and did create a new one as a base for further adjustment; just did adjust the text offsets to have then under each other with or without border. Maybe you can do the same for your coil.

HTH

No difference with using the arrow keys. Using the arrow keys in the element designer, there it works.

I notice that at several moments that several settings go back to their default state that is unpredictable when it happens; this is also about the automatically wire connections and grid. If I turn it off later on its back on.

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scorpio810 wrote:

FOSS: opensource  software
I use all days since 25 years Linux and I also working with QET on Linux, but now I try to improve QET on APPLE hardware, see : https://qelectrotech.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2393

I saw the topic; because of that I....
I am saving too for an M2, actually waiting for an iMac 27" M2 to come available.

scorpio810 wrote:

What is the difference between modal and non-modal dialog?
The main difference lies in the way you can interact with each screen. While a Non-Modal Screen allows users to simply go back to the parent screen, the Modal Screen requires users to complete an action before returning to the main window (“save” in our example) or cancel the current action.

I know that; but it doesn't mean that the dialog shown should obscure the Folio; we can't drag it outside the application window.


When some opens a .qet file, then it shows a modal dialog with the load progress; I have to wait till it finishes and thats okay, but I can drag it out of the application window.

The dialog that qt creates when looking at the references elements is a dialog that stays inside the folio window locked, as in unmovable, obscuring information that I could need.

If I click on a .get file it opens the QElectroTech.app app, but the app doesn't load the .qet file.

Is this intended or a bug?

Thank you.

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scorpio810 wrote:

Thank you, that's what I should have bought instead of the magic mouse, well now that I have it I'll try to do with it, but I don't plan to make big diagrams with QET under MAC, it's just to check that it works pretty well.

For magic mouse you don't have middle click, and MagicPrefs software workaround is more than 5 years old now and is no longer mantained... If you know a FOSS alternative?


Your welcome;
Are you using QET under Linux or...?
FOSS; Knows nothing about that and an alternative

scorpio810 wrote:

See my previous screenshot, move this widget before it have the focus.

Sorry, but you talk about widgets, but the dialog is not a widget. A Widget is something different. And it has no title bar, see the difference with the dialog I mentioned in my first post ( added an image there ) and the one your showing in your screenshot.

Also the layout is different.

Click on a reference triangle, then you get my dialog. I have seen your dialog before but not during this operation.

scorpio810 wrote:

Please make a english screen, what this dialog, folio referencing, cross-reference, etc?


It comes up when I double click or left click on a reference element. So I guess Folio referencing.

But No difference.

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Yes, I got the older model without the grooves at one side.

I use it also (with programmed keys); SketchUp, SK_Layout, kiCad, Fusion-365, Photoshop, two apps of my own. Of course you can use it as a normal mouse.

scorpio810 wrote:

You can also export conductor list table to CSV
https://qelectrotech.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1496


I meant this dialog, its at least on the mac not moveable out side the app window

scorpio810 wrote:

Great,
you could import xml table, see:


Nice
Yummy

Hi,

I just saw that it was possible to drag and move the dialog (seen when clicking left click a Text field to see the source of it) around, even out side the window and even to a second screen. This was very help-full. TOP



However when I  open f.e the previous and following XREF dialog, by clicking a reference element to connect one element to another ( XREF?) I can't drag that window. it obscures the folio.

Its annoying when you want to look underneath to see the column and row pointers.
Is it possible to have this one ( and others ) moving around too?

B.t.w, It would be nice to have this kind of dialog with a list of conductors so we can edit the text and values in that table and have the conductors updated; this instead - to go to each conductor and have it to click right click, edit conductor, find the text, and so on.

thank you, it works.
I need to alter some lining thickness but so far so good.

Maybe, if you want, create a sticky with all those valuable tips. I did search the web and YT, but I did't find this one.

Thank ypu again.

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I am pleased with the CAD Mouse, works well. Also in QET.

Hi,

Is there a way to import an Excel table completely with raster, headers and data?


If not, is there a way to import CSV data in a table?

Thank you

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I did get some movement; once; but was using the buttons with a shortcut key.

For my feeling, I see less use of the Spacemouse Knob in QET;
maybe moving a selection around on the folio. ( but then you have to click with the Mouse to select it, them move it around with the Navigator )
maybe rotate a selection but then it should do it in certain degree steps.
Zooming in and out; not really; zooming with a (CAD) mouse works great enough.
Folio rotation? No use for that.

Maybe the bigger Spacemouse navigators with more buttons and programmed; maybe nice for people who works every day with QET. Andt 3D in QET CAD?