(Edited) Making our own cross referencing symbols (Page 1 of 2)

Hi Marganol,

yes there is a trick I've used many times to make cross ref like you describe it (between pneumatic and electric diagrams for example).

In the collections panel, go to:
QET Collection
    Electric
        Graphics
            Auxiliary symbols for cross referencing
                With linking function (automatic)
                    Parents
and drag the element "reference previous" on your diagram
then, go to:
QET Collection
    Electric
        Graphics
            Auxiliary symbols for cross referencing
                With linking function (automatic)
                    Children
and drag the element "reference next" on your diagram

link both elements together and that's it.
They are only "folio reports" elements but without graphic (without arrow).

This way you can place cross reference texts everywhere you want:
one near a coil in the electric diagram (e.g. the "reference previous") and one in the pneumatic diagram (e.g. the "reference next").
This way, elements are not really linked together like with the master/slave functionality but the trick do the job and it's really easy to use.

This is another way things can be done

I use master/slave cross ref only for electric drawings.

one question:
in your screenshot, process part on the right, why do you use some contact cross ref tables for the P.PV1 valve?
You obviously defined the element as "Master" and then as "coil".

Maybe you would rather defined the process elements like this:

Trick to make it list what kind of slaves it is:
Use the existing system to get prefixes in cross ref:

1) Set master elements to be type "Switch/button"
2) Set slaves to be Power or Delayed to be referenced like "Coil:" / "MoCyl:"
(and use NO or NC type switch depending on in which column you want it listed,
could be used for differentiating opening and closing valve pilot solenoids)
For "Signal:" use Normal type switch (change over) (it will always be listed in both columns)
3) Set up use of prefixes for "Switches":
Right click project in tree
  Project Properties
    New Folio
      Cross references
Type: select "Switches"
[x] show power contaxts in cross
Set prefixes:
Power contacts : "Coil:" (and set Coil slaves to identify as Power contact)
Delayed: "MoCyl:" (and set motor & cylinder to identify as Change Over contact)
Change Over: "Signal:" (and set sensors slaves slaves to identify as Delayed contact)

Auxiliary NO or NC contacts can still be used and do not get prefixes.

Little problems
1: "Signal:" parts get listed in both crossref columns
2: An Aux change over contact get "Signal:" prefix
3: I can not use Switches type master for anything else than Aux or they will get the prefixes

Why You don't use XREF list mode instead cross view?

In slave XREF link you could add more % variables linked to master titleblock 
-> https://qelectrotech.org/forum/viewtopi … 5295#p5295

You can not for slave elements .. for the moment, you could only customize slave XREF link,  but this is perhaps a good idea.

On master element under Xrefs list you could add comment and location field.
On screens I tried with %loc variable but I think you could try with other variable if I remember ..
You want to adding other field has visible in the XREF, and view this new information under slave label name too, like master comment information also visible under slave label name ?

You could use your %variables

Or your texts

Hi Yuri
I can happily send you symbols when I am satisfied with the project.
Beware though that i mostly create them like i want, which is by a combined frustration and experience from looking at too many completely different looking "standards" and programs...  So the are probably rather "personal" and "unique" colored by my own taste.

I have no experince of designing and using of PID symbols (except from reading diagrams with them)

Hello,
Is it possible to design PID with qelectrotech ?
With a bill of materials ?
If yes, i could try to design and provide some PID symbols (ISO 10628).

examples:
https://qelectrotech.org/forum/viewtopi … 2994#p2994

http://ezza.free.fr/drainback/symboles.pdf

http://ezza.free.fr/drainback/solaire_et_T.pdf

PID symbols would be great

Ah, parts list - nice
I tried it, but the column "Label folio" only contain "%id(%total)" for every item; it do not resolve the values.  Bug?
(version: trunk, svn 4733)
EDIT: Entered https://qelectrotech.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=92 /EDIT

BTW, is it possible to generate a netlist?

@ Morganol

not a bug, only something that is not already completely achieved.
To solve the problem:
go to main menu --> Settings --> configure QElectroTech --> New project
then go to the tab "folio" and delete "%id(%total)" in the field "folio :" (under the field "file :") .
But this solve only the problem for new folios you will create.
For existing folios, you have to delete "%id(%total)" in folio properties one by one (or open the *.qet file with a xml editor and use the "search and replace" function).

In the nomenclature (parts list) you can:
EITHER use the column "N° of folio" in the csv file
OR use the column "Label folio" in the csv file

for your information:
"N° of folio" is automaticaly generated by QET if you want CONTINUOUS NUMBERED folios (1, 2, 3...)
"Label folio" receives the entry of the field "folio" of the widget "folio properties" (in this case, you can type by hand the number of the folio or anything you want to identify your folios).

I know... this is a litle bit confusing at the moment but I'm sure it will become easier in the next months (weeks?!?).

@ Opus
this is not a database! Only "something like" a database :-)
The big advantage of possibility 2 is that you have all article data embedded in your symbols.
Drawbacks: you need the LibreOffice macro and it has some restrictions unless you can modify the code of the macro by yourself to shape it fine for your needs.

When I do that i get no numbers at all neither in project list nor folio title block ! ?